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US Grand Strategy in a Fractured World

Colin Kahl and Tom Wright join Leslie Vinjamuri on Deep Dish to unpack US strategy shifts.
President Donald Trump speaks standing between Secretary of State Marco Rubio, right, and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth during a press conference at the NATO Summit on June 25, 2025. Play Podcast
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About the Episode

The pandemic cracked the foundation of the global system—and things haven’t exactly settled. With wars, rising tensions, and global rivalries heating up, former Biden officials Colin Kahl and Tom Wright join Deep Dish to unpack how US strategy is shifting—and where it’s headed next.

About the Speakers
Senior Fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies and Professor, by courtesy, of Political Science
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Colin Kahl is the Steven C.Házy Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Center for International Security and Cooperation at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International studies. He is also faculty director of the Program on Geopolitics, Technology, and Governance.
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Senior Fellow – Foreign Policy, Strobe Talbott Center for Security, Strategy, and Technology
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Tom Wright is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. He most recently served as special assistant to the president and senior director for strategic planning at the National Security Council in the Biden administration. He is a nonresident fellow at the Lowy Institute, a contributing writer at the Atlantic, and has authored several books.
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President & Chief Executive Officer, Chicago Council on Global Affairs
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Dr. Leslie Vinjamuri joined the Council in 2025 as the president and chief executive officer, after previously serving as director of the US and the Americas program at the Royal Institute of International Affairs, known as Chatham House, in London. She brings more than 20 years of experience working at the intersection of international affairs, research, policy, and public engagement.
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