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Defending Our Skies from Spy Balloons and Public Fear

Join Deep Dish for a look at what the Chinese spy balloon tells us about the readiness of the US air defense system and what type of surveillance should worry us.
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About the Episode

In recent weeks, the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena sightings in North America have left many wondering whether US air defense systems are equipped to handle such threats. Ex-NORAD chief Scott Clancy and Carnegie Council’s Arthur Holland Michel join Deep Dish to discuss how worried Americans should truly be. 

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About the Experts
Former Director of Operations, NORAD
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Scott Clancy is the former director of operations at the North American Aerospace Defense Command known as NORAD and former deputy commander of the Alaskan NORAD region. He served in multiple squadrons of the Royal Canadian Air Force as a tactical helicopter pilot.
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Senior Fellow, Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs
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Arthur Holland Michel is a senior fellow at the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs and the co-founder of the Center for the Study of the Drone at Bard College. He is also author of "Eyes in the Sky: The Secret Rise of Gorgon Stare and How It Will Watch Us All".
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Vice President, Studies
Brian Hanson is the Vice President of Studies at the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. He oversees the Council's research operations and hosts the Council's weekly podcast, Deep Dish on Global Affairs.

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