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Preventing US Allies from Going Nuclear

Ivo Daalder, Chuck Hagel, Malcolm Rifkind, and Kevin Rudd join Brian Hanson to explain why the current security environment could restart nuclear proliferation.
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The changing security environment and decaying trust in the US nuclear guarantee could lead to nuclear proliferation among allies, a new report from a task force of defense and security experts argues. Task force cochairs and report authors Ivo Daalder, Chuck Hagel, Malcolm Rifkind, and Kevin Rudd join Deep Dish to discuss possible solutions and why this is so urgent.

About the Experts
CEO, Chicago Council on Global Affairs
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Ivo H. Daalder served as the US ambassador to NATO from 2009 to 2013. He joined the Council as president in 2013 and took on the new role of CEO in 2023. Previously, he was a senior fellow in foreign policy studies at the Brookings Institution and served as director for European affairs on President Bill Clinton’s National Security Council. He is the author or editor of 10 books.
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Chuck Hagel
Former US Secretary of Defense
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Chuck Hagel served as the 24th United States Secretary of Defense from February 2013 to February 2015. He is the only Vietnam veteran and the first enlisted combat veteran to serve as Secretary of Defense. Previously, Hagel served two terms in the United States Senate representing the state of Nebraska.
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Malcolm Rifkind
Former UK Foreign Secretary and Secretary of Defense
Malcolm Rifkind is the former UK Foreign Secretary and Secretary of Defense.
Kevin Rudd
Former Prime Minister of Australia
Kevin Rudd served as Australia’s prime minister from 2007 to 2010, as foreign minister from 2010 to 2012, and again as prime minister in 2013. Rudd is a leading international authority on China and served as an Australian diplomat in Beijing. Presently, Rudd serves as president and CEO of the Asia Society.
Brian Hanson
Former Vice President, Studies
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Brian Hanson served as the vice president of studies at the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. He managed the Council's research operations and hosted the Council's weekly podcast, Deep Dish on Global Affairs.
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