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Post by TheMark on Jan 9, 2021 2:02:58 GMT
I think website forums just might come back.
Not that Trump is on the way out (and has been permanently banned from Twitter and FB), Facebook is starting to ban pages (#WalkAway I just heard about), Apple just pulled the Parler app from their store (and every Apple device), I have no doubt YouTube will be squashing "hateful" channels soon.
This will probably mean a resurgence of the decentralization of the web. Websites like this and other true platform places like Discord will quickly find new business from those who don't agree with Our Algorithmic Overseers.
As of now, I am 99% off FB. I am sick of this shit (there, not here).
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Post by allene on Jan 9, 2021 7:13:41 GMT
I ignore politics on FB. Most of my activity there is on genealogical sites and family and old friends sites.
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Post by andy on Jan 9, 2021 12:07:17 GMT
There's a youtube channel I watch about a guy who lives on a narrowboat in the UK
They've censored his vids for having an *opinion* on the UK lockdowns.
Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual.
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Post by andy on Jan 9, 2021 12:59:39 GMT
I got curious and went looking for a few old accounts I used to read/follow.
About a dozen
All banned now, all did not toe the Liberal line.
Yet Twitter has no problem leaving up a tweet from yesterday that was practically chest beating China's genocide and sterilization of the Uighurs
I guess it's only a matter of time before they go after the guy I follow who identifies old cars and the kid that pets dogs if they step out of the Party line.
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Post by jc on Jan 9, 2021 20:44:36 GMT
I'm an old guy, and in my time this was called 'censorship'.
That is, if you don't agree with me, you're out of here.
I really don't see how they're getting away with it, but I can't say I didn't see it coming.
But, what REALLY bothers me is that it's not people that are doing the censoring, it's f***king computers!
How far we've come.
Pretty sad.
And I have no idea how you're going to fix this 'social media' nonsense.
It's become what people do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 21:08:54 GMT
Refuse to participate.
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Post by TheMark on Jan 10, 2021 0:03:34 GMT
But, what REALLY bothers me is that it's not people that are doing the censoring, it's f***king computers! Computers are very dumb. They do EXACTLY what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do. But they are very fast. PEOPLE have to tell the computers what to look for, then the computer runs an IF/ELSE tree (that people have to write) to either let it go, auto delete, or flag it for a human to review.
I have said for years, the best programmers are the moms of toddlers. If the mom can tell the toddler (step-by-step) how to clean up their room, they can program in any language. Once you can think like a programmer, it's all just syntax after that.
(I had to do "r*ght" in square brackets because BBCode took the proper word as formatting. ;-)
Turn to right until you face [toy_name]
Walk to [toy_name] Crouch down with your legs Extend your [r*ght] arm
Grab [toy_name] with [r*ght] hand
Pull [toy_name] to you Stand upright Turn right until facing [toy_box]
Walk to [toy_box] Extend your [r*ght] arm so [toy_name] is over [toy_box] Open [r*ght] hand If [toy_name] != in [toy_box]: Repeat function from start
Else: Get [toy_name2] [toy_name] = [toy_name2] Turn left until facing [toy_name] Repeat
One of the first "tests" in a programming course is to 'program a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.' It's a lot more difficult than you think.
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Post by TheMark on Jan 10, 2021 0:06:11 GMT
I ignore politics on FB. Most of my activity there is on genealogical sites and family and old friends sites. Every time you log in, FB is selling your eyes to advertisers. Don't give them the market.
"Advertising is the art of interrupting the human intellect long enough to get money from it."
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Post by jc on Jan 14, 2021 21:45:50 GMT
Well, the way they're going I don't think I'll have any use for any of them. Hell, they're banning and censoring anyone worth listening to!  Shut down anyone not toing Nancy's line? All in all, I think it's remarkable that they're getting away with this. Who put them in charge? What'd I miss? |
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Post by TheMark on Jan 15, 2021 4:30:34 GMT
Well, the way they're going I don't think I'll have any use for any of them. Hell, they're banning and censoring anyone worth listening to! Shut down anyone not toing Nancy's line? All in all, I think it's remarkable that they're getting away with this. Who put them in charge? What'd I miss? That's a lot to cover: Leftists have a very simple rule: Toe the line or lose your toes. And the line changes on a random basis. What is acceptable one day is worthy of being cancelled the next. A Leftist was excoriated by other Leftists a few years ago, for the crime of using the exact same arguments transsexuals were using to justify their position, and used them to support transracialism (a la Rachel Dolezal). Who put them in charge? Several groups, starting off with the NPC foot soldiers who unquestioningly vote D all the way down the line. Next are groupthinkers who can think somewhat independently, but they have swallowed so much BS, theydefault to the talking points given them, like "African-Americans can't be racist because they don't have any institutional power." Last are the power-hungry two-legged animals that are willing to do whatever it takes to walk with impunity in the halls of power and run things "the way they ought to be run. Let the peasants lick my boots."
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Post by Shinytop on Jan 15, 2021 21:14:06 GMT
I have to admit some disquiet with social media making decisions about who gets heard and who does not. But the problem is only manifested by these bans. The real problem is the inability of people to discern what is real and what is not. I am constantly appalled by the number of people who listen to the lies dripping from Trump and Trumpists for four years and still believe anything he utters. If all of us would just take a look at the number of lies and broken promises from the WH then the ability for social media to influence would wane and die away. So when the ability of the American people to identify lies or to just listen skeptically when known liars try to incite violence with lies there would be no call on social media to arbitrate.
The people I know who admit to following Trump do so for the comedy and for warnings about what the idiot is going to try next.
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Post by TheMark on Jan 16, 2021 3:26:49 GMT
I have to admit some disquiet with social media making decisions about who gets heard and who does not. But the problem is only manifested by these bans. The real problem is the inability of people to discern what is real and what is not. I am constantly appalled by the number of people who listen to the lies dripping from Trump and Trumpists for four years and still believe anything he utters. If all of us would just take a look at the number of lies and broken promises from the WH then the ability for social media to influence would wane and die away. So when the ability of the American people to identify lies or to just listen skeptically when known liars try to incite violence with lies there would be no call on social media to arbitrate. The people I know who admit to following Trump do so for the comedy and for warnings about what the idiot is going to try next. Who the fuck authorized anybody to decide what I should or should not see/hear? Do we prohibit people who still believe the Earth is flat (or vaccines are bad, UFO's are real, etc.) from hearing what they believe in? Why should this be any different??? You admit to "some disquiet," let me tell you my "disquiet meter" passed eleven a while ago. I have to admit some disquiet with social media making decisions about who gets heard and who does not. But the problem is only manifested by these bans. The real problem is the inability of people to discern what is real and what is not. I am constantly appalled by the number of people who listen to the lies dripping from Obama and Obamaists for eight years and still believe anything he utters. If all of us would just take a look at the number of lies and broken promises from the WH then the ability for social media to influence would wane and die away. So when the ability of the American people to identify lies or to just listen skeptically when known liars try to incite violence with lies there would be no call on social media to arbitrate. And fixed your post. You don't think Obama, Bush 43, Clinton, Bush 41, even Reagan lied in front of cameras? So don't bring shit to sling on Trump that you aren't willing to sling on the last dozen or so presidents. Trump has a hyperbole problem. The positive things Trump did for this country is unquestionable. Did he fuck up? Considering he's a fallible human being, yes. But so did Obama, et. al. Moving our embassy to Israel's capital (unlike the prior TWELVE presidents), didn't get us into a SINGLE new foreign conflict, got most of our troops home, brokered THREE Israel-Arab peace treaties, lowest minority unemployment since they started keeping records in the 70's, incentivized the return of domestic manufacturing and more. If you don't think these things are good, you'd better get your head checked. |
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Post by Shinytop on Jan 16, 2021 19:13:26 GMT
Do not "fix" my posts. They are not yours to touch. Are we clear? ARE WE CLEAR?
"Fixing" another's post is one of the rudest actions that can be taken, IMHO.
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Post by Arc on Jan 16, 2021 19:47:47 GMT
I think the topic is social media in general and especially its selective hard-core abusive censorship. They, Twitter, FB, et. al. do so because they have an extreme social and political agenda. They also do it because they are given carte blanche authority to do so and do not face any consequences of note. In aggravation they censor both the lies from some and the truth from many if it does not toe the line toward their political agenda. They even heavily censor or ban tweets and or posts that are completely neutral or not in anyway inappropriate. They do this to many just because of who they are. And I am referring to many victims of censorship and bans not just an one particular person or entity.
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Post by TheMark on Jan 17, 2021 19:48:40 GMT
Do not "fix" my posts. They are not yours to touch. Are we clear? ARE WE CLEAR? "Fixing" another's post is one of the rudest actions that can be taken, IMHO.
I quoted you correctly the first time. I requoted you (and put my "fixes" in bold to make them obvious) to illustrate your point about "Trump's lies" to also illustrate that Obama (and Bush 43, Clinton, Bush 41, et.al.) lied through their teeth several times on video and the Pravdas never called out Clinton or Obama on them. You seem to have a selective memory that is keyed to the party of the particular politician, All I'm asking for is a little equality.
Would you like to address the other points of what I wrote?
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